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1932 Willys 6-90
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Re: 1932 Willys 6-90
Marcus
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Re: 1932 Willys 6-90
Lots of planning has clearly gone into this.
Your methodical approach makes it look easy, but I know none of it is easy.
Your methodical approach makes it look easy, but I know none of it is easy.
Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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Re: 1932 Willys 6-90
Very true. Plenty of weeks just walking around with tape measure etc in hand and seeing what is possible. Today even chalk marking out on the floor to visualise something so Lisa can see what I mean. Little to show for the time taken at the moment, but will pay dividends later.
Marcus
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Re: 1932 Willys 6-90
So I'm not Robinson Crusoe?
My wife Helen cannot see in her "minds eye" what I see and it can take a lot of creativity to convey the message. Which to me is perfectly clear.
Keep at it as I'm really enjoying this.
Do you have a date you would like it done by or is it "before I die", like some of my projects!
My wife Helen cannot see in her "minds eye" what I see and it can take a lot of creativity to convey the message. Which to me is perfectly clear.
Keep at it as I'm really enjoying this.
Do you have a date you would like it done by or is it "before I die", like some of my projects!
Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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Re: 1932 Willys 6-90
It is common for not to have a 'minds eye'. I can change colours and invert things etc or see it in 3D from a 2D drawing. Had a architect friend that back in the day that had to build whole houses etc in model form for clients just so they could relate to the 2D drawings he had made. You are just born with it one way or the other I suppose and has nothing to do with intelligence. My wife would have to be higher in IQ than I with her PhD and work in breast cancer research with papers seen all around the world etc, but struggles with this sort of thing. Fortunately she trusts me a lot to figure these sort of things out, but will let me know if she liked the outcome or not.zuffen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:13 pm So I'm not Robinson Crusoe?
My wife Helen cannot see in her "minds eye" what I see and it can take a lot of creativity to convey the message. Which to me is perfectly clear.
Keep at it as I'm really enjoying this.
Do you have a date you would like it done by or is it "before I die", like some of my projects!
Main reason for going to the Nationals this weekend is to show her different ideas I have so she can make a better informed decision about them.I want to do it quicker than the Truck build and have this on the road before it is a 100 years old, 2032, and the engineer I use retires! We are the same age so better work fast.
Might not be painted, but that doesn't matter.Marcus
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Re: 1932 Willys 6-90
Setup the laser to get the exact distance from the rear axle centreline to the firewall on the Willys and the Chrysler 300 SRT8 donor. It was greater than I expected and was a 500mm-20" difference! This would mean that the Willys 113" wheelbase would grow to 133"! So something had to be done.
Notice the section cut out in front of the B pillar that is arrowed. That is 70mm-2.75" missing.
Then the whole B pillar was removed back to the original factory join at the seat riser.
Then all the leaning forward of the B pillar modifications was done on the other side with the same section cut free. I then removed all the calking from the end of the floor seam and marked forward from there 165mm-6.5" in different spots as the seam is not straight.
Then out came the cut off wheel and reciprocating saw to sever the shell in two!
Then I rolled them apart so the next stage could begin.
Before I cut it in two I made a support leg that bolted to the centre bearing mount inside the tunnel. It was at the exact height so alignment later would be easy and wouldn't fall after cutting the shell in two. The jack is at the balance point of the front section to make it easy to move the section around by myself.
The edge was de-burred and the assembly holes that had a dimpled edge were flattened out so they would sit flush on the seat riser flange.
Part of the excess was rough cut off, just in front of the seat riser flange, avoiding anything that had to remain attached to it.
It was then easier to remove the remainder of the floor from the flange after the spot welds were ground through with the die grinder and the seam splitter used. The tunnel was also drilled for plug welds in the original spot weld locations. The rest of the floor can be reached using my portable spot welder that I bought from a business that used to make limousines and funeral cars.
First test fit showed the height difference now between the top of the tunnel and the rear seat pan. Not unexpected given the slope in the transmission tunnel.
Wedges were cut out of the tunnel and the edge shrunk to bring down the height. The flange on the seat pan was also cut so it could be bent up to meet at the same angle.
4 reference points were measured at floor level as well as from the top of the A pillars across to the top of the C pillars, both sides, before the cutting took place. Then exactly 165mm-6.5" were deducted from these to make sure everything was true and square when it came back together. By having upper and lower points of reference, it makes sure the shell is not bending in the middle. Having the rear and front halves supported at four points also stopped this from happening. Even after welding everything back together, they were all to the millimetre. The B pillar was then welded back in 70mm-2.75" further forward and the part behind the B pillar was step flanged at the factory seam after 95mm-3.75" was removed.
Seam sealer/adhesive was added between the layers before welding them together. The factory assembly holes were also welded shut along the seam.
Etched primed to stop any rust while the build continues. Will be zinc coated and a seam sealer used later on.
This brings the distance from the rear seat raiser to the back of the B pillar the same as our daily driver, a 2010 Jeep Cherokee. We could test access on that and knew we didn't want anything less, but this will still have a deeper and wider seat base than it giving more room once seated. The front opening is still greater, but will be shortened some more once the new A pillar is made just behind the existing one. This will be vertical rather than angled as now and will lengthen the firewall to cowl distance to suit the Willys.
Notice the section cut out in front of the B pillar that is arrowed. That is 70mm-2.75" missing.
Then the whole B pillar was removed back to the original factory join at the seat riser.
Then all the leaning forward of the B pillar modifications was done on the other side with the same section cut free. I then removed all the calking from the end of the floor seam and marked forward from there 165mm-6.5" in different spots as the seam is not straight.
Then out came the cut off wheel and reciprocating saw to sever the shell in two!
Then I rolled them apart so the next stage could begin.
Before I cut it in two I made a support leg that bolted to the centre bearing mount inside the tunnel. It was at the exact height so alignment later would be easy and wouldn't fall after cutting the shell in two. The jack is at the balance point of the front section to make it easy to move the section around by myself.
The edge was de-burred and the assembly holes that had a dimpled edge were flattened out so they would sit flush on the seat riser flange.
Part of the excess was rough cut off, just in front of the seat riser flange, avoiding anything that had to remain attached to it.
It was then easier to remove the remainder of the floor from the flange after the spot welds were ground through with the die grinder and the seam splitter used. The tunnel was also drilled for plug welds in the original spot weld locations. The rest of the floor can be reached using my portable spot welder that I bought from a business that used to make limousines and funeral cars.
First test fit showed the height difference now between the top of the tunnel and the rear seat pan. Not unexpected given the slope in the transmission tunnel.
Wedges were cut out of the tunnel and the edge shrunk to bring down the height. The flange on the seat pan was also cut so it could be bent up to meet at the same angle.
4 reference points were measured at floor level as well as from the top of the A pillars across to the top of the C pillars, both sides, before the cutting took place. Then exactly 165mm-6.5" were deducted from these to make sure everything was true and square when it came back together. By having upper and lower points of reference, it makes sure the shell is not bending in the middle. Having the rear and front halves supported at four points also stopped this from happening. Even after welding everything back together, they were all to the millimetre. The B pillar was then welded back in 70mm-2.75" further forward and the part behind the B pillar was step flanged at the factory seam after 95mm-3.75" was removed.
Seam sealer/adhesive was added between the layers before welding them together. The factory assembly holes were also welded shut along the seam.
Etched primed to stop any rust while the build continues. Will be zinc coated and a seam sealer used later on.
This brings the distance from the rear seat raiser to the back of the B pillar the same as our daily driver, a 2010 Jeep Cherokee. We could test access on that and knew we didn't want anything less, but this will still have a deeper and wider seat base than it giving more room once seated. The front opening is still greater, but will be shortened some more once the new A pillar is made just behind the existing one. This will be vertical rather than angled as now and will lengthen the firewall to cowl distance to suit the Willys.
Marcus
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Not to try at all, is to guarantee it!
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Not to try at all, is to guarantee it!
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Re: 1932 Willys 6-90
Marcus,
I'm glad you have your head around this as it's starting to do my head in.
Hats off to you.
I'm enjoying this immensely.
I'm glad you have your head around this as it's starting to do my head in.
Hats off to you.
I'm enjoying this immensely.
Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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Re: 1932 Willys 6-90
Bigger Gonads than I ever had Marcus Really enjoying this challenge 
Really enjoying this challenge If it has tits or wheels, you can expect trouble.
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Many thanks guys. Was great to finally see something major change after all the measuring. 
Marcus
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Re: 1932 Willys 6-90
Some guys just spent Easter "hanging around".
Not you Marcus.
You're into it!
I am going to dig deep into Ozrodders history here and quote Andrew (32coup)
" Cut your way in, and weld your way out".
But your level of imagineering is way beyond anyone on here.
Not you Marcus.
You're into it!
I am going to dig deep into Ozrodders history here and quote Andrew (32coup)
" Cut your way in, and weld your way out".
But your level of imagineering is way beyond anyone on here.
Yeah. I've changed my signature. The old one was out of date...
What if climate change IS a hoax, and we make a better world for nothing?
What if climate change IS a hoax, and we make a better world for nothing?
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Re: 1932 Willys 6-90
Thank you mate.
Been a while since I had seen the expression.
Been a while since I had seen the expression.
Marcus
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Re: 1932 Willys 6-90
Video update of the donor body getting cut in half.
Marcus
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Re: 1932 Willys 6-90
Nice clear and concise video that was easy to follow.
The cut and shut is looking very factory.
I'm enjoying tagging along.
The cut and shut is looking very factory.
I'm enjoying tagging along.
Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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Glad to hear it.
Marcus
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Re: 1932 Willys 6-90
Proof that planning pays off, what's the next big step Marcus.
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