Grand Willys Project
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Re: Grand Willys Project
Looking forward to seeing it all come together.
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Re: Grand Willys Project
Thanks guys. 
Lenny has a good reputation for getting things done, so hope that proves to be true!

Lenny has a good reputation for getting things done, so hope that proves to be true!
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Re: Grand Willys Project
Before I start pulling down the rolling chassis and loosing all the room in the workshop, I'm thinking of anything at all that I wouldn't mind changing the appearance of before it goes to paint.

I decided to replace the 3 rounded beads I had on my side steps to more useful flat top ribs that I could put some grip tape on. More ribs as well to make it stiffer and the paint better protected. I'm just using a step die to do all of one side of each rib first before turning the piece around to do the other side.

To finish off the ends of the ribs I'm using the step die to run across the very end of each one only. This leaves the end up more than crushing the ends to finish them off.

Measuring across the ribbed section showed that in a flat plain, it was slightly shorter than the ends. So a little shrink at the end of each rib sorted that out.

A bit of work stretching along the side of the ribs anywhere it was low got the rest of the piece completely flat.

Cut the three rounded beads out to sit the new piece in ready for tacking into place. I thought this was easier than starting the step from scratch again as know this fits perfectly and I can't check the fit as the whole bed is already removed and in pieces.

Just the shrinking of the tacks twisted the whole piece up 35mm or 1.25"!

Knowing that it was flat before tacking, I knew that just stretching the tacks would bring it flat again. Just hit each tack a similar amount and continued around a number of times until it sat flat again.

I did one continuous tig weld and knocked off any particular high spots in the bead before planishing the weld to stretch it. You don't want to go too hard and fast with it or otherwise you get a trough each side of the bead. I stretch it from both sides as well depending of what it needs always keeping within the heat effected zone. I grind the weld bead down in stages between hammering it to keep it all flat. Once the piece was perfectly flat again, I would go to the next side and repeat. That way you always know where the distortion is coming from.

Checked in every direction to make sure it was flat. You can also see what the step looked like with just the three rounded beads.

Both sides now done.

I decided to replace the 3 rounded beads I had on my side steps to more useful flat top ribs that I could put some grip tape on. More ribs as well to make it stiffer and the paint better protected. I'm just using a step die to do all of one side of each rib first before turning the piece around to do the other side.

To finish off the ends of the ribs I'm using the step die to run across the very end of each one only. This leaves the end up more than crushing the ends to finish them off.

Measuring across the ribbed section showed that in a flat plain, it was slightly shorter than the ends. So a little shrink at the end of each rib sorted that out.

A bit of work stretching along the side of the ribs anywhere it was low got the rest of the piece completely flat.

Cut the three rounded beads out to sit the new piece in ready for tacking into place. I thought this was easier than starting the step from scratch again as know this fits perfectly and I can't check the fit as the whole bed is already removed and in pieces.

Just the shrinking of the tacks twisted the whole piece up 35mm or 1.25"!

Knowing that it was flat before tacking, I knew that just stretching the tacks would bring it flat again. Just hit each tack a similar amount and continued around a number of times until it sat flat again.

I did one continuous tig weld and knocked off any particular high spots in the bead before planishing the weld to stretch it. You don't want to go too hard and fast with it or otherwise you get a trough each side of the bead. I stretch it from both sides as well depending of what it needs always keeping within the heat effected zone. I grind the weld bead down in stages between hammering it to keep it all flat. Once the piece was perfectly flat again, I would go to the next side and repeat. That way you always know where the distortion is coming from.

Checked in every direction to make sure it was flat. You can also see what the step looked like with just the three rounded beads.

Both sides now done.
Marcus
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Re: Grand Willys Project

Thought I would dress up the brackets I made to hold the washer and radiator overflow bottles. They were perfectly functional, but a bit of a custom look would make them look better as well.

Laid out a design and happy I don't anymore have to use a holesaw to cut large holes, as it always stalled my drill press. Using a hydraulic hole punch instead is faster and gives a cleaner result.

Once the holes were punched I cut out the pieces and folded the flanges. Used the same tool with my dimple dies.

Bracket cover pieces finished.

I spot welded them to the original brackets.

Looks less rudimentary now.

This will help them tie in with the bonnet supports etc that I also dimple die'd.
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Re: Grand Willys Project
Much nicer and stronger, all the little details count.
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It's the details that add up as they say.

Marcus
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Re: Grand Willys Project
Pulling it all apart is revealing little details some (most?) of us missed during the build.
Superb work, as always.
Superb work, as always.
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What if climate change IS a hoax, and we make a better world for nothing?
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Thanks mate.
Things like the original brackets for the bottles were never photographed and shown.
Things like the original brackets for the bottles were never photographed and shown.
Marcus
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Update on the deconstruction of the Willys Truck.
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Re: Grand Willys Project
You can only go forward from there Marcus.
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Re: Grand Willys Project
There is so much detail on this that many will never see and that is a real shame.
Thanks for sharing your tips and details on how you achieve your finishes
Thanks for sharing your tips and details on how you achieve your finishes
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Marcus
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Many thanks Jeff.Jeff Hitchins wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:25 am There is so much detail on this that many will never see and that is a real shame.
Thanks for sharing your tips and details on how you achieve your finishes

Marcus
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